The following emails are presented verbatim including the owners name and email addresses. You are welcome to contact them but please introduce yourself as they are under no obligation to Hydrovane
SOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED SEPTEMBER 2014 – Taswell 49 – over 20 tons
- From: Margie <firstname.lastname@example.org>Date: September 16, 2014 at 10:17:02 PM GMT+1To: "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org>Subject: Photo of Taswell 49 All Seasons
It was good to talk to you and Sarah today on the stand.
As promised, here are three photos that show the Hydrovane. There are possibly better ones on the lap top, if so, I'll send them later.
This is an extract from our blog on our second day into a 15 day voyage from Brazil to Trinidad.
.........."At 19.45 the Autohelm stopped working! With the wind blowing 26knts, Marcus was having to helm in pretty foul conditions and I came straight from bed into my 'wets' and up into the cockpit ............... Shooting along at 7.5knts, I clambered up onto the transom to move the Hydrovane's knot on the control line back into the centre, so that we could adjust the angle to the wind from the cockpit......(I really must sew that line together so it runs through smoothly!) .........It's amazing what you can do when it has to be done and the Hydrovane, once again saved the day! When we get calmer seas I'll have to go down into the aft locker to mend the Autohelm incase the wind drops and we have to motor."
Although we managed to mend the Autohelm, we carried on sailing with the Hydrovane for the remaining 1600 miles.
Don't forget to take a look at 'Magnetic Attraction' the steel boat that's for sale at Berthon!
Lovely to have met you and hope to meet you again along the way.Margie and Marcus HaywardIsland Kea IIwww.islandkea.com
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED SEPTEMBER 2014 – Crossbow 40
- From: "Michael Day" < email@example.comTo: firstname.lastname@example.orgSent: Sunday, 14 September, 2014 9:45:43 PMSubject: Quote please !
I'm SA based ex-pat Brit planning a transatlantic crossing Cape Town to BVI's in December.
My boat is a Lavranos designed Crossbow 40, launched 2007 (which is at least 12 years after the last sister-ship but that's a looong story:) She's sugar-scooped, 40'LOA, displaces 9600kg half load with no stern platform or other overhangs.Somewhat dated perhaps by today's design standards, a tad narrow at the stern and therefore has a slight tendency to wander downwind.
And since we'll be riding the SE Trades for at least half of the trip, that's a bit of an issue.
From my web browsing, forum busting, ear bending research, Hydrovane looks the way to go.
Would therefore appreciate an approximate quote and delivery time, ASAP, and, as I know you'll need detailed images and measurements for the final spec and build, promise to get those to you by end this week.
For the moment I just need to know approx price* and if the unit can be shipped in time to arrive here mid/late November.
Would much appreciate a figure* by return email if you can.
Many thanks & regards from the sunny Cape.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED SEPTEMBER 2014 – Hylas 46
- From: Tom Saxe [mailto:email@example.com]Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:55 AMTo: firstname.lastname@example.orgCc: email@example.comSubject: RE: Hydrovane News - Shows, Events, and Videos!
Please pass this to John. Thanks
We met at last year’s Annapolis Boat Show and spent an hour trying to figure out why the Hydrovane, I installed, didn’t hold a heading for more than a few minutes (maybe 20 min). I left with some “to dos” to trouble shoot the problem. Well it has been a long season where I had no real need to get to the Hydrovane problem (mid way on “the list”). This past week I went off shore for about 250 NM. My list priority changed before departure.
I was about to do all of the adjustments we spoke of at the Show, when I noticed a bit of discoloration at the frame of the “gear box”. I had installed a larger than needed fender washer on the “hold down fitting to the shaft which hit the side wall. This didn’t allow for full swing of the shaft and hence the problem. Problem solved. 250 NM with one adjustment in route.
I should have sent you a picture of me napping in the cockpit to explain this better, but I thought you would like the details.
See you at the Annapolis Show.
TomThomas K. SaxeYacht BrokerAnnapolis Sailyard326 First Street, Suite 18Annapolis, MD firstname.lastname@example.org 268 4100 office202 580 9944 cell
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED SEPTEMBER 2014 – Hallberg Rassy 42E ketch
- From: OJ8756@sailmail.com [mailto:OJ8756@sailmail.com]Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 1:09 AMTo: Will CurrySubject: Watermaker hose
Thank you Will for your answer
I cut the hose and managed to get rest of the hose out from fitting.
But how to remove nipple from coupling?
I have a plan to stay at anchor in Darwin.
By the way, you asked last year in september permission to put our experience on your web site. I forgot to answer. Yes, you can if you still want to.
You wrote Septermber last year:
Valerie passed along your email about your Hydrovane experience and I was wondering if it would be okay to post it on our website? It's good to hear it has been performing its duties.
Here is my text from September last year:
"My wife Hilkka and I are very happy to have Hydrovane. We sailed last year to the Caribbean. We had miner rudder failure during ARC and we used Hydrovane manually during reparations. We came back to Helsinki in May. Just two of us from the Caribbean. We are now in La Coruna, Spain. Our plan is to sail south, round Cape Horn, then through Pasific, North of Australia, South of Africa, Caribbean and after that to the Mediterranean. Hopefully those six pins are enough. Boat is Hallberg Rassy 42 Ketch."
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED AUGUST 2014 – Contessa 32
- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:10 AMTo: email@example.comSubject: Hydrovane Reference Material - Offline e-Version Request
Let me commend you and the Hydrovane team on a very comprehensive and thorough website (as well as effective self-steering product). I have owned and operated my Hydrovane for several years now, and when I have questions about operation and maintenance, I am always able find my answers online at your website or in the paperwork that shipped with my unit.
I do have a related request though. As more and more folks (myself
included) go paperless (to save on storage space onboard) and use laptops and tablets to access reference material while sailing, it is very convenient to be able to archive equipment owner's manuals/operating instructions on our hard drives, and access them while underway without the need for Internet connection. For virtually all my equipment and systems onboard (e.g., diesel engine, electronics, furlers, toilet, refrigeration etc.) I have been able to download manufacturer's *.PDF files for the necessary supporting references, all except for my Hydrovane.
Can you please make available your installation instructions, operation and general maintenance instructions, and tips, as downloadable *.PDF files for your customers, past and present? It would do those of us who use and appreciate your product a great service, especially when tucked away in some remote anchorage or port of call, away from Internet connectivity or a phone.
For your kind consideration.
EDITOR'S COMMENTS - Yes, PDF copies of relevant website sections should appear soon.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED AUGUST 2014 – Roberts Spray 38 (steel) – LOA 45, 17 tonnes/37,000 pounds
- From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 10:23 PMTo: firstname.lastname@example.orgSubject: testimonial
Hallo Hydrovane people!
I moved on to my boat in 2008 am still living on board. I have sailed half way around the world solo with only my hydrovane to self steer. It is a fantastic piece of equipment and probably the last item I would get rid of on the boat because it is so reliable. The only time it let me down, was in 2009, I was one month out with one month to sail before land fall, using my ssb a ham radio user contacted you explaining my predicament and within 24 hours I was provided with the dimensions of the part that I needed to replace (the ratio arm) I was able to Jury rig using what I had on board and made it to the destination with no further troubles. So I would say that not only is the product brilliant but so is the after sales service. Thanks
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JULY 2014 – Beneteau 423 – Advice to Beneteau owners
- From: Mike and Carol Kefford [mailto:email@example.com]Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:46 AMTo: 'Will Curry'Subject: RE: Hydrovane
Happy to provide feedback and advice to any Beneteau owners for you. Of course you may use the photo. We are trying to get one of us and "Barret" under sail for you. Attached is a passage report which you may use, discard or edit to suit, or not. We will not be offended.
The spare parts are now on board, but not yet fitted as the weld is holding up so well. I will wait until our next long spell at anchor to fit them.
SY TASHI DELEK
Beneteau Oceanis 423
Mike and Carol Kefford
Our Hydrovane was fitted by us (with the help of an engineer friend) in Gibraltar in 2011, having had it shipped there as we prepared to cross the Atlantic after three years cruising in the Mediterranean. Fitted with an excellent “stubby” wind vane to fit under the solar panel arch, we were able to learn how it worked and how we could best use it during our passage to Cape Verde via the islands of Madeira and Lanzarote. In particular, we understood how important it was to balance the sails so that the Hydrovane was not fighting to correct weather helm or lee helm. We discovered why our insurance company loves Hydrovane and we soon came to love “him” ourselves.
Like all other cruisers our steering assistants take on a personality of their own. Our Raymarine autopilot aka “Wilhelm” now had a companion “Barret”. So named after “Barret” Bonden, the coxswain in the Patrick O’Brien books, a favourite series of eighteenth century British Naval books and from which the film Master and Commander was made.
Barret was to steer us across the Atlantic in December 2011, to the Bahamas and North America in 2012 and back through the Caribbean in 2013 to Trinidad. We went through the Panama Canal in March 2014 and arrived in the Galapagos Islands in April.
The trip from Galapagos to the Marquesas Islands was to be our longest passage with just the two of us on board and “Barret” was an essential crew member for the 3000 mile crossing. He requires no power, we do not have to feed him and he never sleeps. He is the perfect crew member.
We departed from Academy Bay, Santa Cruz, Galapagos on 15 April and ran SW for the first few days with light winds between 4 and 12 knots, with the cruising chute pulling us along and Barret doing all the work. On 17 April a False Killer whale swam alongside the yacht, so close that Carol’s toes are in the photograph.
From 19 April to 3 May we travelled more westerly as the SE Trade Winds kicked in with 15 to 25 knots. However, from 25 to 30 April we also had a period of severe squalls and torrential rain. The wind was often gusting 30 to 40 knots on the edge of the squalls with the seas uncomfortably confused with crossing waves on top of the 3 metre southerly swell. During this period we often needed to hand steer for hours at a time as neither “Wilhelm” nor “Barret” could cope with the breaking following seas. This was not a reflection on “Barret” but on our steering wheel locking system which kept being thrown hard over by the following seas. We were reluctant to tie it down hard for fear of the forces breaking the rudder. We have since learnt to trust the strength of the yacht, to tie the wheel and let “Barret” do the rest.
From 4 May the squalls became less frequent, the seas were calmer and the wind backed to the east. At 10 degrees 20 minutes south we tacked back to the north for 24 hours to give ourselves a better angle of approach to the most southerly of the Marquesas’, the island of Fatu Hiva. We were then able to sail almost dead downwind with headsails poled out on either side and “Barret” doing a fine job on this most difficult point of steering.
We sighted the dramatic profile of Fatu Hiva at 0530 on 9 May, shortly after which the wind died for a while and we had to put “Barret” in neutral and motor sail until we rounded the northern tip of the island. The final three miles to Bay on Fatu Hiva was hand steering as it was such an emotional moment to approach that spectacularly beautiful bay.
Our passage had taken us 24 days, not fast at all as our conservative sail plan had been intended to look after the yacht, especially during the prolonged period of bad weather, and we still had 4000 miles to go to Australia. “Barret” had steered us the majority of the way and he and Tashi Delek had looked after us very well. We cannot wait for the next leg of the voyage and to see “Barret” deliver us, via the Tuamotus, Cook Islands, Niue, Tonga, Fiji, Vanuatu and New Caledonia to Bundaberg, in Queensland, Australia.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JULY 2014 – Newport 41
- From: John Kloppenburg [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:24 PMTo: Will CurrySubject: Re: Ali Oop in False Creek
Gertrude, from what we tried so far, is working well. I'm sure that she will steer the boat for us and I will keep you up to date with our travel and let you know how she performs. I have attached a few pictures of the install. I hope all is well with you and your family. John
EMAIL DIALOGUE ON REEFING – JULY 2014 – Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
- From:Will CurryTo:'Palma Maritime Marco'Cc:'John Curry'Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 5:55 PMSubject: RE: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
Good to hear you are getting to know your new crew member. We had lunch on Monday with Jeanne Socrates (just completed her third circumnavigation) and we were talking about off-set installations. I mentioned the effect when boats are healing and her response was “no boat should be healing.” It always amazes me that when you reef early there is generally very little loss in boat speed and the boat is more comfortable. We had at least one reef in our mainsail the whole way across the Pacific and we still had multiple 180 mile days
Anyway, thanks for keeping us posted. Can we post your email with the photos you sent
Hydrovane International Marine Inc.
Basically I have to reef a little quicker than hand held steering. I was veering approx 20 dgrs again on the hydrovane in 12-13 knots of wind (I normally start reefing a first reef in the main at 14 knots). So put in one reef in the main and all went perfect straight away. No more than 5 / 6 dgrs veering either side. So all happy! I have to start thinking a little more in cruising terms instead in fast, faster, fastest. Will take some getting used to!!
MarcoFrom:Will CurryTo:Palma Maritime Marco ; John CurrySent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 2:44 AMSubject: Re: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40 - Hydrovane model VXA2D M(shaft length)/A/H - EURO 5,148 - Stubby + OSK
Good to hear you got your Hydrovane installed.
The vane axis inclination is used to reduce the sensitivity of the vane in heavy weather. For most conditions you shouldn't have to use this. You only want to incline the vane when it appears to be over steering.
You should be able to get the vane to steer a straighter course. You might want to read through the poor performance Tips section on our website - See http://www.hydrovane.com/instructions/tips/#6
Most of the time the issue is with getting the boat properly balanced before engaging the vane. When you lock off the wheel the boat has to want to track straight. Poorly trimmed sails or an unbalanced sail configuration can make it difficult for the vane to steer. When going downwind a pole on the genoa is mandatory. What points of sail and conditions have you been using the vane in?
Our Boat was a Beneteau first 405 that we sailed to Australia and would have similar sailing characteristics to your Jeanneau with a fin keel and spade rudder. Once we got the sails balanced we could normally keep our course deviation within 5-10 degrees which in most cases was better than the autopilot. It steered us 95% of the way across the Pacific.
Do you have any photos of the installation we can add to our library?
On another note, are you still in Mallorca? We have another customer who may be looking for someone to install his Hydrovane on a Cheoy Lee 47. If so, can I pass along your contact info?
Let me know if you have further questions.
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Palma Maritime Marco <email@example.com> wrote:
I have succesfully installed the Hydrovane and have used it several times now. It´s an amazing unit, which is very easy to use. I do have 2 questions though, which hopefully you can shed some light on.
1. What is the function that you can tilt the vane back?? When would u use that? I can´t really find much info on it.
2. Sailing into a straight-ish line seems difficult: I have been trying the 3 different "gear" settings and it doesn´t seem to make much difference which I use, but there is quite a sway from a straight line at time. I suppose my type of boat is relatively "nervous" when it comes to wind gusts and the hydrovane just doesn´t react as quick as an electric autopilot, but sometimes the sway of the straight line is like 15 degrees either end, which seems a lot to me.
Any thought in that?
Thanks and with best regards
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 40
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JULY 2014 – Elan 434
- From: Gerry May [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 2:49 PMTo: 'Will Curry'Cc: 'John Curry'Subject: Hydrovane comments & pix
It was good to meet up with all of you at Hydrovane yesterday. Thanks for the spare rudder pin… always good to have one of those, just in case.
I wanted to share with you my first impressions of the Hydrovane which we were able to employ for most of the stretch between the Aeolian Islands (NW of Messina Strait) to Cagliari, Sardinia. In a word, fantastic… with sails and the boat’s rudder in trim, it was dead simple to engage and adjust, achieving a stable helm almost instantly. We were in relatively flat water with 12-14 knots at 100-110 degrees apparent, so perhaps these gentle conditions helped to shorten the learning curve. Even so, I was amazed how easy it was to experiment with different vane angles and ratio knob positions to find the groove, so to speak. We settled on the most sensitive ratio knob position with an almost vertical vane in these conditions. I found the gentle rocking motion of the vane to be almost hypnotic… what an amazing piece of engineering!
I have attached a few pictures.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Offshore/Rhodes/Reliant 40/41 – also see his March 2009 email
- From: sigmund Baardsen [mailto:email@example.com]Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:24 AMTo: John CurrySubject: Heading East
It was lovely to see Will and Sarah's excellent (informative) piece in Latitude 38. They are inspirational. Please convey that to them.
MARY T is now on the hard. We have scraped off hundreds of 10-12mm barnacles and wet sanded the bottom. We do not consider that a paint failure, as La Paz Bay has 85F. water temp and is rich in nutrients. After three weeks, our anchor chain is the size of your arm, with marine growth. Unlike the Chesapeake, where marine life is dying of eutrefaction, due to industrial and agricultural pollution and mostlythe pig farms, here the oyster, clam and crab fisheries are prospering.
Carol is sewing covers for all the new varnish. The first 6 coats applied three months ago, at Catalina are already breaking down and have been re-coated, with another three. God I am hating varnish. It’s a mug’s game, south of 40 Deg.
Everything is removed from deck and/or double lashed, on account of hurricanes. The jack stands are well chained and the boats are jammed in so tightly that it is unlikely that any individual boat could go down. The yard is a far cry from the Cherubini Yachts yard. Here it is dirt aprons, flea-bitten dogs and dog shit everywhere, abandon boats, broken and abandon boat parts everywhere. It is a place of broken dreams, yet it is familiar, comfortable and we somehow find hope here. There is happily no travel lift, but instead a there is a cement launch-ramp, into the water and a big submersible trailer with hydraulic arms that support the boat.
We have found an inverse relationship, between appearance of the yard and care given the vessels. In the yards with flash new equipment, smart uniforms, travel lifts and fancy offices and restrooms, they care more about insurance, waivers, disclaimers, documentation and paperwork than they do about the boat. That is a sentiment not widely shared, particularly in the U.S..
Tomorrow we are off the boat, into a B&B operated by cruising friends, from 25 years back, at Moorings Pto. Escondido. That should be fun.
After a few days rest we are flying East, to sail on a sistership in the Chesapeake Bay/Long Island Sound area. The Annapolis boat show is on our itinerary.
Will you be there?
We have seen as least six new HYDROVANES here in this yard alone. Your improvements are subtle. Congratulations. You seem to be not only holding your own but gaining against the electric auto pilots. The HYDROVANE/tiller pilot combination must be much more economical as well as versatile than an equivalent under- deck autopilot.
Coming down the coast we had a few 168/mile days, with three reefs in the main and a scrap of jib. that's not bad for an old boat with a 27 foot waterline.
On the 6th night, a threaded stem-ball, unscrewed from the control rod. (My fault, not yours). We had to had steer. It was exhausting. With fatigue we started to make slow decisions and bad decisions. Rather continue, deeper into folly, we hove-to (a forgotten virtue) and rested. At daylight we put into the salt works at Cedros Island, where there is a machine shop. I was able to make the repair, with parts on board in fifteen minutes. Then we slept for fifteen hours straight.
Avoiding fatigue is important to "Survive your dream". Fatigue is insidious in its effect on our faculties. We don't even think of drinking and driving, yet people brag, "I was steering for18 hours, couldn't leave the helm, because of the storm". That's stupid. That is a message that cruisers need to hear.
Congratulations on helping so many to achieve and survive their dreams.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Scandia 32
- From: Arthur Robey [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:06 PMTo: email@example.comSubject: Thank you.
Sorry about the delay. Life got in the way.
I just wanted to tell that I am very pleased with my vane, 'Atilla'.
He worked exactly as promised, first time out.
I am thinking that I should invest in two more for my little yacht.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Hallberg Rassy 412
- From: firstname.lastname@example.orgTo: email@example.comSubject: FW: Hallberg Rassy 412 - Hydrovane model VXA2D L(shaft length)/A/H - £4,750 - 3 Timber PadsDate: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 16:54:15 +0100
John, having used our Hydrovane (nicknamed 'Helga"!) on and off for a couple of weeks I thought I would send you some reflections.
Overall when Helga is working she is amazing. Her ability to sail the boat smoothly and quickly astonished me even after reading various reviews before we purchased. My wife is a bit prone to seasickness and we clearly notice the difference as soon as Helga is engaged or dis-engaged. Shen even managed to steer the boat well when motorsailing on number of occasions. However, there are number of points worth mentioning or discussing:
1. We had to fit Helga slightly off centre on the starboard side. We do have a bimini and a backstay where the main elements of the bridle and blocks are on the port side. The impact is that on starboard tack Helga works almost faultlessly on any point of sailing but really struggles to find clear air on port tack with the apparent wind forward of the beam. Obviously the heeling angle of the boat effectively lowers Helga further into the wind shadow. Given that we have few options with the bimini and backstay - please see photo - I'm not sure whether there any easy answers to this. I would welcome your thoughts.
2. On our boat the normal genoa is low footed with minimal overlap but we do carry and use a 'code zero' sail in up to around 12/13 knots of wind with the true wind more than 55/60 degrees off the nose. The balance of boat is much more sensitive to changes in wind strength with this sail up and Helga needs a bit more adjustment as we go along.
3. I also note your comments about removing the rudder for manoeuvring in marinas. We have found this to be absolutely essential, particularly since our boat is fitted with a sail drive well forward rather than a traditional propeller. With Helga's rudder locked centre it is absolutely impossible to get any side ways kick on the stern when driving on to pontoons. We had a couple of quite embarrassing moments until I realised what the issue was!
4. Please could you send me a couple of spare pins? I've read your comments about rotating the pins to prevent fatigue failures. I'd like keep two spare.
PeterJohn's response to Peter's questions:
• DIRTY AIR – You might be surprised to hear that we have never had a report of dirty air affecting performance when beating ……. although such is certainly possible/understandable. Part of the reason is that cruisers so rarely have to beat upwind and that is such an easy point of sail steering wise. If you ever do get in that situation again you can try:
o Shift the sheeting to the traveler (if you have one)
o Slack the main sheet a bit
o Put a reef in the mainsail
o There is an expression: ‘Gentlemen never go to weather’.
• HEADSAILS – If you have a true genoa with a low foot I always recommend having them recut to put the clew higher making the length of the sides more like an isosceles triangle so you can see beneath it and when you slack its sheet the sail doesn’t simply open at the top. Genoas are one purpose sails – meant to go upwind – a direction that cruisers try hard to avoid. When off the wind, even with the headsail on the leeward side it is often wise to put a pole on the clew to tighten up the sail – keep it from collapsing and filling. That collapsing and filling corrupts the boat balance sending confusing signals to the HV.
• RUDDER REMOVAL – For arrival in a marina it is much preferable to remove the rudder ……. unless you have an extra pair of hands to use the HV rudder – two rudders are better than one.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Valiant 40
- From: Mike Meador [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:31 AMTo: 'Will Curry'Subject: RE: First time Hydrovane owner - Valiant 40
Thanks again for your support. Our maiden voyage from Florida to the Chesapeake Bay on our just-purchased 1991 Valiant 40 was uneventful. The Hydrovane hadn’t been used for at least six years; I lubricated it as you suggested, installed the rudder and vane, set up a control line, and quickly figured out how to engage it once we were underway. It functioned as advertised, much to the amazement of a couple of crew who weren’t aware of wind vanes. We used it for a third of the trip; other times we were forced to motor sail with the autopilot.
I understand the loose, no-lubrication engineering design, but what about using a bit of silicone grease on the worm gear?
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Islander Freeport 36
- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: September-18-13 11:10 AMTo: email@example.comSubject: Re: UPS SHIPPING INFORMATION Islander 36 Freeport - Hydrovane model VXA2D L/H/E - Stubby Vane - H & E timber pads
I installed and started to use when I left my home port on Sept 4. Unfortunately there was only 1 day of wind in the first 7. Since then the winds have varied from 5 to 35 knots (rounding Pt Conception on the California coast). The vane has worked well. I find I have to make some adjustements as the wind speed varies to keep the boat from rounding up. This adjustment is either on the vane or by a small adjustment on the boat helm.
Somehow we misconnected on the vane. The title of this email is stubby vane which is what I wanted for future installation of an arch. I was sent the standard vane. I am happy with this for the time being. If I do get the arch which may be someway down the road I may want to switch to the stubby.
I plan on posting a report on the Freeport Owners Yahoo Group to show the installation and indicate I am pleased with it. Note we did have to make some adjustments in the ribbing in the stern of the boat to make it work. The only installation problem so far has been the control arm at the top of the shaft came loose at the end of the first day.
Later Bob wrote to Latitude 38 magazine - quoted in the CHANGES section of the March 2014 issue:
"One of the bits of gear I'm most satisfied with is my Hydrovane. The Cadillac of vanes. It's also the most expensive as it cost $6,000 installed. But two things make it particularly good for me. First, it could be installed offset, which it had to be because of the door that opens in the back of the boat cockpit. Because it's offset, the rudder is out of the slipstream of the main rudder, and is therefore more efficient. Secondly, its a totally independent steering system, so if the main rudder fails, I can steer the boat using the vane rudder."
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Columbia 43 – maiden sail with HV from Honolulu to Kauai and back
- From: Sergio Mitrotti [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:48 PMTo: email@example.comSubject: Thank from honolulu
I finally tested the hydrovane I installed on my Columbia 43......
I sailed from Honolulu to Hanalei bay in Kauai, only 125 nautical miles...but with 25 nots wind gusting up. Going with the wind at 150 degrees, coming back sailing to weather 45 to 50 degrees.
I did not touch the steering wheel until was time to drop anchor...or ready to drop sail at the entrance of the marina..
I may need a spare pin, just in case.
I am getting ready to get the water maker...Echo tec, 11 or 13 gallons..
could you give me the latest on the package???
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Cartwright 40 en route to Tahiti from Hawaii
- From: DeLorme inReach [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: June-16-14 5:58 PMTo: email@example.comSubject: inReach message from Vince Denhertog
Thanks. This is my first time sailing with a Hydrovane and it performs so well under all kinds of conditions. A work of art really. Vince
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UNSOLICTED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Allegro 32
- From: Ulf Olsson <firstname.lastname@example.org>Date: Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:45 AMSubject: Re: Hydrovane on ClaryTo: Will Curry email@example.com
so now the first report from Clary with Hydrovane - we are soooooo disappointed, the rudder does not work at all, the vane is f______g up and the rudder goes all ways - what is this for joke ......
Honestly Will, I´m joking of course - the rudder is magnifique, it worked after 5 second trial. we have sailed up to 30 knots and we have a new member onboard, even during reefing the rudder keep Clary in perfect position - I´m super impressed
The only issue I have is steering in the harbour - so far I´m locking the rudder and steer wirth my original rudder but Clary reacts prettys slow - maybe I have to play with both rudder the same time - here ther is something to learn - hints are welcome.Regards//Ulf
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED JUNE 2014 – Alan Payne 41
- From: Robert Williams [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]Sent: June-02-14 7:08 PMTo: Valerie WilliamsSubject: Re: Hydrovane Delivery UPS T Tracking Number 1ZW4V3356899028041
....My old HV was pretty good, but the new one is even better. I am sure that no other windvane on the market can match this very important characteristic for me, especially as I hate to motor.
Right now I am drifting around in the middle of the Sea of Japan waiting for some wind - not even the Hydrovane works when there is no wind.Regards,Bob WilliamsSY Sylph VI+8816 4158 6292blog.mailasail.com/sylph
Alan Payne 41 with new Vane, Drive Unit and shaft and custom lower bracket
35+ year old Hydrovane with custom bracket supports
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED MAY 2014 – Jeanneau SO 45 – shaft failure from crevice corrosion …. surfing at 16 knots
I thought I would send this to you for your thoughts and comments.
Our boat is a Jeanneau Sun Odyseey 45. My son, William (aka Skip) is sailing back from Antigua to the UK via Bermuda and the Azores with his friend Tom. Both are very experienced sailors. William sailed across with me last November to the Caribbean. They wisely opted to sail to Bermuda first thereby avoiding the deep depression in which Cheeki Rafiki found herself.
Before leaving the Caribbean I fitted new bearings and stripped the system to clean and check. Everything was in perfect order even after many miles of use.
I am a big fan of the Hydrovane and am always extolling its virtues. Before passing comment on to fellow users I thought I would speak with you first to see what your thoughts might be regarding the cause of the failure.
Please be assured that my aim is to support and promote this excellent product.Kind regardsPeter Peter WhatleyVice CommodoreOcean Cruising Club
From: Peter Whatley [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 12:44 AM
To: Will Curry
Cc: John Curry; Sarah Curry
Subject: Re: hydrovane
The measurement of the shaft on our boat is 1190mm. I have asked William, my son, to check and double check and he confirms that this is the measurement.
I have attached a photo of the broken shaft for interest. The other photo shows the Hydrovane working well as our boat powers along at 10.3 kts.
Our top speed with the Hydrovane in control is 16.5kts but it was getting a bit wild so we put the inboard pilot on as well. This works really well and keeps the boat under control.
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED MAY 2014 – Hallberg Rassy 49 – 23 tons
From: Dan Alonso [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:54 AM
We bought HydroVane last year. I went off and did 4 Ocean races including an offshore rescue.
As you may recall, I had difficulty with the install on the way to Bermuda. Like all the other testimony, I just can't say enough about it, it's fantastic. I just did a solo, nonstop Charleston to Portland without my pilot. Winds 0 to 40 and the HydroVane was just perfect. Even under power in 8 foot trailing seas, heavy fog pulling into Portland it perform wonderfully. I had waves breaking on the transom with no canvas and it was fine . I can't tell you how many times I look back at the vane and think it's just Magic. As I first started to use the HydroVane, I struggled. I doubted that it could steer the boat, too much boat. I was over correcting, not properly trimming the main sail, not using the rudder for gusts. On the other side of this learning curve, it just magic. Thank you so much. It's the best money we've spent on the boat. The funny thing is that, $6k held me back. It took two years before we bought. The peace of mind, savings in energy consumption and the quiet, I'll say quiet again! It's by far the best 6K we ever spent.
I got my friend Bill on his HR 43 to get it. It's being installed and I'll be helping him dial it in.
Stanley Paris, is preparing to race around the world and has asked me about it. He's sailing a Farr 63 but with similar displacement as Halcyon. His adventure is a green. I can't say enough for the safety side of it. If possible a kick up rudder adapter would be good for his application. He may help in the production of such an adapter. His adventure is enormously publicized
Approaching Maine, the lobster pots became more dense. I was concerned about damage to the vane if I got hung up. What are your thoughts on that? I also wondered about a kick up adapter with a shear pin for that issue. I'd buy it.
Because of the rescue, I've been asked to speak at a Seven Seas Cruising Association rally next month in Essex, CT. Although, HydroVane was not the star of the rescue story, it could have been. I didn't have the time to practice and learn to use it. I now believe, it can make you a better sailor, keeping the boat in proper balance and matching the environment. I will be pitching it as a "must have" piece of equipment. I feel so strongly about your product. Honestly, It's foolish not to have it. There will be about 40-50 offshore cruisers. Do you have brochures you can forward. They need to know HydroVane and what it can do. I'd like to put something in their hands. Halcyon's getting a little bit of a name. I think we've got a website in our future and will be looking to help promote HydroVane as well.
2208 Omega rd
Cheyenne, WY 82009
Halberg Rassy 49 - 27 tons
UNSOILICITED EMAIL RECEIVED MAY 2014 – Jeanneau SO 44i
From: Graham Perry [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 8:57 AM
To: John Curry; Will Curry
Hi John and Will
Hope all is well! I am still in Toronto. Salty Ginger in in Antigua. Out new Hydrovane steered Salty Ginger effortlessly across the Atlantic ion 2012.
I am very interested in the Watt@Sea Hydrogenerator and low and behold - you are a distributor.
Do you have a price sheet available with all the options
Still trying to decide where I would mount it. I would love your input based on my Hydrovane location (see pics)
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 44i
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED MAY 2014 – Hallberg Rassy 45
From: Hellmuth Starnitzky [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:59 PM
Subject: Hawaii Passage
Thanks for a great piece in April's Latitude 38. Must have been fun!
In response to your April 16, 2014, e-mail to WDE7227:
We were sailing at an apparent wind angle of 120 degrees mostly on starboard tack in winds of 25+ knots. As the wind clocked further to the ENE, this being a cutter rig, we changed the sail plan and had the staysail set to leeward and a partially unfurled Genoa on a pole to windward. Winds increased to the high 20s and topped out at 36 knots true with big waves to 25'.
Heeding your advice to play around with the sail area to achieve as good a balance as could be had, the vane performed flawlessly and kept us at an apparent wind angle of 160 - 170 degrees. Hydrovane steered us for more than 2,500 nautical miles of the total of 3,118 nm on our way from Puerto Vallarta to Honolulu where we arrived a week ago.
"Lucy" is truly an amazing device, reliable and strongly built which afforded the crew a lot of comfort: knowing that also at night we did not have to worry about an accidental jibe, would stay on the same wind angle and had much time for other things like navigation, cooking and sleeping.
I was initially somewhat concerned about the start-up investment of purchase and installation but meanwhile think that it was the best upgrade to the boat which has paid a handsome return in terms of comfort and less wear and tear on the main steering system and autopilot. It just worked great!
When unshipping the Hydrovane rudder upon arrival, I noticed again a slight warp in the rudder's shape. When holding the rudder such that I can look down its leading edge, there is a small but noticeable bend to the left, as mentioned before. Anything I can do to straighten the rudder? - I also noticed that along the center of the seam on the slanted top where one grabs the rudder, a number of small holes opened up as if some glue was washed out. I do not consider this a deficiency at this time but wonder if this may be a sign of beginning delamination of the two halves? As always, your comment is appreciated.
We will continue to Sitka, Alaska, at the end of June for the summer before eventually returning to the San Francisco Bay Area.
I attach a Word file being an editorial I sent to Latitude 38 about our crossing from P.V. As you can read, I mentioned Hydrovane as well.
This as an update. I appreciate your availability and promptness in rendering assistance and advice!
Hallberg Rassy 45
UNSOLICITED EMAIL RECEIVED MAY & JUNE 2014 – Custom 28 foot
From: Scott Waddington [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:08 AM
To: Will Curry
Subject: One for the catalogue?
Hope you and yours are well.
She's been a dream, more obedient than any crew member and such a calm nature!
Scott (of WicorMarine - as listed on our 'INSTALLERS' webpage)
From: Scott Waddington [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: May-01-14 12:43 PM
To: Will Curry
Subject: Amble - Course setting wheel / Worm Stiffness
I should have read your Tips first!! I’ve just seen the note about the worm swelling and that it might need reaming. I will try this today so please don’t waste your time replying as I suspect this is the problem.
Hope you are well. I tried the Hydrovane for the first time the other day and got on very well all things considered. I used it for 3 hours from home port to Yarmouth in the Isle of Wight and by the time I got there I already had confidence in the Hydrovane. I clearly needed to do some tweaking but to all intents and purposes, it was working well. On the way back I had set up the course setting line up properly and was even tacking with the Hydrovane, leaving the tiller locked until on the new tack and then slightly adjusting back to the sweet spot.
However, this was a couple of weeks ago and I went out to Amble yesterday and was making a few adjustments, like fitting bunny cord to the rudder and I tried the course setting line (not sure why). To my surprise it was very stiff, the line just slipped on the pulley. When I tried to turn the pulley by hand, it was definitely stiff and I can’t work out what has happened.
I am sure this is something very simple indeed, so perhaps you could shed some light on it. I tried WD40 everything but that didn’t make any difference.
I look forward to hearing from you.
WicorMarine Yacht Haven
Cranleigh Road, Portchester, Fareham, Hampshire PO16 9DR
t 01329 237112 f 01329 825660
See his video: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3J0G6QD1DhPWxQJWq4LEUw
'AMBLE' is a custom 28' teak sloop designed by F B R "Buster' Brown, built in 1959 by William King of Burnham.
SOLICITED EMAILS RECEIVED APRIL/MAY 2014 – Beneteau 423 enroute Galapogos to Marquesas – enquiry on temporary fix to cracked casting
Thanks Sarah, we are now underway and three days in to our passage with our fabulous Hydrovane doing a great job. All well and so far way more pleasant than the Atlantic ever was!! I will let you know once plans for a UK visit firm up so that there will be plenty of time to arrange our order. Many thanks, With kind regards, Carol
From: Mike and Carol Kefford [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: May-01-14 7:09 AM
To: 'Will Curry'
Subject: RE: Hydrovane
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to enquire about us. 2176 miles behind us and 924 to Fatu Hiva to go. The Hydrovane has steered all the way, except for sail changes and adjustments, when we neutralize him to hand steer to windward etc. The bracket is holding up well. It is checked every day and shows no signs of stress. Hurray! We have been experimenting with settings for the vane and variable control to get the best performance downwind in steep following seas, mainly to avoid gybing! However, strong winds 25 - 30 kts plus 3m swell and 2m crossing waves over the past 4 days have made life somewhat tense. All is well on board.
I will send a full passage report once we are at anchor and include some photos.
You will note the reference to the Hydrovane as "him". I am sure it takes on a personality for everyone. Ours is called "Barrett" after Barrett Bonden, Captain Jack Aubrey's coxswain in the Patrick O'Brian books.
So, we love Barrett, he is doing a magnificent job for us. And thanks again for asking.
Mike and Carol
09* 54' S 123* 02' W
From: Mike and Carol Kefford [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: May-05-14 7:34 AM
To: 'Will - Hydrovane'
Subject: RE: Email from fellow Beneteau 423 owner
No worries. I will send a holding reply until we are at anchor and recovered. We will happily pass on our experiences of setting up a Beneteau 423 for major cruising to them. Things we got right and things we wish we had known at the time etc. All good about the Hydrovane though. Best thing we did. We currently have only 10 kts of wind but at least the sea is calm.
490 nm to go, even at 4 kts SOG it is a delight.
- From: Margie <email@example.com>Date: September 16, 2014 at 10:17:02 PM GMT+1To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com>Subject: Photo of Taswell 49 All Seasons